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Saturday, 20 May 2006
Hello from Vasa
What a great enjoyment to be out of town a few days. Agneta (friend of my girlfriend) and Lukas will become wife and husband tomorrow. No kiddin' it's a LOT of arrangements.
But I, on my side have had a wonderful and relaxing day. Went out for a nice walk with Patrick Helström, discussed life and church life. I've read a few articles on Emerging Church and some other interesting stuff like "Starving Jesus - 40 days of nothing" by Craig Gross and JR Mahon. Many questions do arise. To name a few: What's the role of church-life in relation to living as a christian (christian = pointing to Jesus as Jesus pointed to his Father)? How much is the successfullnes of a church dependent on a (single) charismatic front figure? What actually IS a successfull church by definition? Why does it seem so easy to have very high confessions in our churches, our preachings, and our lives as christians, and still seem very seldom to live up to them? And even worse - almost never seem to realise we don't live up to the confessions. And - why are there so many oppinions, and so few eager to do something to what ever they have oppinions about? And yet one more: How important is the spiritual and theological inheritage from previous generations and older movements?
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Hey, I'm also in Vasa now =)
You're asking some big questions here, and I'm glad to see that you're reading up on emerging church stuff. Not that I promote it fanatically, but because they have good questions about different things, and are willing to look for answers and to do something about them (with exceptions, as always...)
Posted by: Mathias | Sunday, 21 May 2006
I'll take on a few of your questions (yay only one month and then back to Finland):
- How important is one central leader?
1) Very
2) Not very
In practice, most examples of "successful churches" have a very central charismatic figure. This is especially true in the western world. It is encouraging, since a single individual can have a very big contribution, but it is also discouraging because then only very few people ever manage to make a contribution close to their potential. Essentially I think leadership is becoming more important than ever. But the way I believe it has to happen is to break past limitations so that more people can take the roles where they can maximize their potential. Instead of one successful church, 10 successful churches etc.
Too tired to write any more, but I'm sure we'll have lots of conversations on these topics later.
Posted by: Oskar | Monday, 22 May 2006
I also think it's a big challenge to see church growth through in a way that allows churches to multiply and cover ground in a way that allows ten churches to grow, not one or two. I think it is an example of great integrity when a church leader decides to re-asseble or re-organize a church that is becoming big into smaller units, covering more ground and gaining more potential to grow, as churches generally grow slower as they grow bigger. But it's hard, I can imagine. Still I think this way of thinking could be developed further and be useful when it comes to reaching new people and new areas.
Posted by: Mathias | Tuesday, 23 May 2006
three minutes again!:)
Posted by: Hanna | Monday, 29 May 2006
jepps!
Posted by: lottaG | Tuesday, 30 May 2006
Johan,
long time to see. Great to hear good news from different areas in your life!
Ajattelin ehdottaa sulle kirjaa "The shaping of things to come", kirjoittaneet Frost & Hirsch. Olen tilaillut Amazonista ison kasan hyviä emerging church -kirjoja, joten vois vaikka kerätä joskus jengiä aiheen tiimoilta ja mennä kaffelle porukalla. Tähän tulis aika pitkä selostus monenlaista muuten :) kirjoitan joskus meiliä sulle (jonka muutkin :) saavat lukea! Voikaa hyvin, Heli P
Posted by: Heli | Sunday, 11 June 2006
The shaping of things to come on tosi hyvä kirja. Johan, osta se =)
Posted by: Mathias | Sunday, 18 June 2006
HI :) ages since this post - but that's good as i only just re-round it. (grin)
You ask GREAT questions here. I think that is the beauty of emergent ... it's about dialogue and engaging people, listening and impacting lives.
The harvest IS here. Look around!
Posted by: Lorna | Saturday, 01 July 2006
Nice to see you keep up your blog (well, a bit at least ;) )
Posted by: Rade | Thursday, 20 July 2006
Hi Johan
Heard about your engagement from Anttu. Congratulations!!!!
Posted by: Lorna | Tuesday, 29 August 2006
Har det inte hänt nåt i ditt liv som du vill blogga om, Johan...?
=)
Posted by: Mathias | Thursday, 31 August 2006
I recently had a person come into my office who had tried numerous things to quit smoking and had failed every time. When I spoke with her about her past experiences, she told me about how horrible and “nervous” she felt while on Zyban / Wellbutrin which is something that many clients tell me.
In examining the reasons why she had not been able to stop smoking, I got an answer that seems strange when you think about it logically, but yet is a very common answer… fear of “losing my best friend”. How can something be your “best friend” when by your own report, you say you hate the sell, inconvenience and cost? She hated being controlled by cigarettes, but yet called them her “best friend”.
The answer surfaced very quickly once I made contact with the “inner smoker” and followed the chain of feelings to determine the “core feeling” was that the “inner smoker” was trying to get by smoking. It was about “love”. At the unconscious level, smoking was “love”. Any wonder it was hard to quit… love is a very basic human need.
Posted by: cigarettes | Thursday, 23 August 2007
I recently had a person come into my office who had tried numerous things to quit smoking and had failed every time. When I spoke with her about her past experiences, she told me about how horrible and “nervous” she felt while on Zyban / Wellbutrin which is something that many clients tell me.
In examining the reasons why she had not been able to stop smoking, I got an answer that seems strange when you think about it logically, but yet is a very common answer… fear of “losing my best friend”. How can something be your “best friend” when by your own report, you say you hate the sell, inconvenience and cost? She hated being controlled by cigarettes, but yet called them her “best friend”.
The answer surfaced very quickly once I made contact with the “inner smoker” and followed the chain of feelings to determine the “core feeling” was that the “inner smoker” was trying to get by smoking. It was about “love”. At the unconscious level, smoking was “love”. Any wonder it was hard to quit… love is a very basic human need.
Posted by: cigarettes | Thursday, 23 August 2007
I recently had a person come into my office who had tried numerous things to quit smoking and had failed every time. When I spoke with her about her past experiences, she told me about how horrible and “nervous” she felt while on Zyban / Wellbutrin which is something that many clients tell me.
In examining the reasons why she had not been able to stop smoking, I got an answer that seems strange when you think about it logically, but yet is a very common answer… fear of “losing my best friend”. How can something be your “best friend” when by your own report, you say you hate the sell, inconvenience and cost? She hated being controlled by cigarettes, but yet called them her “best friend”.
The answer surfaced very quickly once I made contact with the “inner smoker” and followed the chain of feelings to determine the “core feeling” was that the “inner smoker” was trying to get by smoking. It was about “love”. At the unconscious level, smoking was “love”. Any wonder it was hard to quit… love is a very basic human need.
Posted by: camellight | Tuesday, 04 September 2007
I recently had a person come into my office who had tried numerous things to quit smoking and had failed every time. When I spoke with her about her past experiences, she told me about how horrible and “nervous” she felt while on Zyban / Wellbutrin which is something that many clients tell me.
In examining the reasons why she had not been able to stop smoking, I got an answer that seems strange when you think about it logically, but yet is a very common answer… fear of “losing my best friend”. How can something be your “best friend” when by your own report, you say you hate the sell, inconvenience and cost? She hated being controlled by cigarettes, but yet called them her “best friend”.
The answer surfaced very quickly once I made contact with the “inner smoker” and followed the chain of feelings to determine the “core feeling” was that the “inner smoker” was trying to get by smoking. It was about “love”. At the unconscious level, smoking was “love”. Any wonder it was hard to quit… love is a very basic human need.
Posted by: camellight | Tuesday, 04 September 2007
Есть Казань мужчины, которые в женщинах не нуждаются. Нет-нет г казань , у них все в порядке с сайт казани потенцией. Непорядок у них исключительно в голове.
Подозреваю, что казань ооо женщина для них - нечто среднее между компании казани инопланетянином, с которым казань интернет трудно найти общий язык, и чесоткой, которая время от казань 2008 времени отвлекает от важных дел, и избавиться от школы казани нее нет никакой возможности.
Я таких мужчин из телефоны казани вежливости, мягко, называю самодостаточными. вузы казани А женщины им не нужны потому, что у них и так все есть: работа, разнообразные адрес казань увлечения, места, в которых они проводят досуг. база казань Женщина для них - досадная помеха, которая может г казань ооо заставить перекроить устоявшийся агенства казань порядок вещей. За который они цепляются так
зао казань судорожно, как турист, по ошибке забредший на нудистский справочник казани пляж, - за свои плавки.
Posted by: accinegef | Friday, 22 August 2008
Сегодня в Липецк на улице Фрунзе обнаружен г липецк крупный клад из 900 серебряных город липецк монет.
В ходе гостиницы липецка археологических исследований, ооо липецк проводимых НОО «Археолог» под фундаментом магазины липецка старинного дома, постройки сайты липецка XIX века найден клад, санаторий липецк состоящий из более 900 новости липецка серебряных монет. Большинство центр липецк из них номиналом 10, 15, 20 копеек. клубы липецка Самая древняя – банки липецка 1 рубль 1732 года. телефоны липецка Монеты находились автосалоны липецк в полотняном мешочке.
Вызывает справочник липецк интерес исследователей иностранная монета достоинством в 60 центов отдых липецк эпохи Наполеона III. Археологи высказали предположение, что клад был зарыт школы липецка в конце 20-х годов прошлого века. В пользу этого предположения компании липецка свидетельствует найденная монета, адреса липецк отчеканенная в 1927 году.
Как сообщил GOROD48 салоны липецк начальник Госдирекции по охране гостиницы г липецк памятников и культурного наследия Липецкой области Андрей Найденов, в настоящее липецк фирмы время ученые уже приступили к изучению находок.
После интернет липецк реставрации, монеты, скорее всего, передадут в одну из экспозиций краеведческого музея.
Posted by: unapconee | Sunday, 24 August 2008
There was this guy see.
He wasn't very bright and he reached his adult life without ever having learned "the facts".
Somehow, it gets to be his wedding day.
While he is walking down the isle, his father tugs his sleeve and says,
"Son, when you get to the hotel room...Call me"
Hours later he gets to the hotel room with his beautiful blushing bride and he calls his father,
"Dad, we are the hotel, what do I do?"
"O.K. Son, listen up, take off your clothes and get in the bed, then she should take off her clothes and get in the bed, if not help her. Then either way, ah, call me"
A few moments later...
"Dad we took off our clothes and we are in the bed, what do I do?"
O.K. Son, listen up. Move real close to her and she should move real close to you, and then... Ah, call me."
A few moments later...
"DAD! WE TOOK OFF OUR CLOTHES, GOT IN THE BED AND MOVED REAL CLOSE, WHAT DO I DO???"
"O.K. Son, Listen up, this is the most important part. Stick the long part of your body into the place where she goes to the bathroom."
A few moments later...
"Dad, I've got my foot in the toilet, what do I do?"
Posted by: Erospisee | Sunday, 26 October 2008